yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig hex is 4 bit

Funny how people even Programmers are confused by Hexadecimal

This is Funny how Some people get quite confused about simple Hex Base 16 System with 0123456789ABCDEF characters,

and bring in all kinds of other things to confuse things..... when really it's simple.

Like thinking about the the ASCII value of the character stored for screen that represents the hex character 0-9 A-F

so for Example as ASCII value of "5" = Hex "35" or binary 0011 0101 has some revalance....

and another complicate things further thinking as 0 to 9 take so many bits ...As there still thinking hex as displayed ASCII characters.

You see another get confused thinking hex is fixed to a byte as thats most commonly way hex is used 2 hex characters to represent a Byte.

But hex can be any number of digits
D
DE
DEA
DEAD
AS can Decimal numbers

123

1234

My name in here is yazakchat1 and user in RED I am talking to.

Here is some chat posted in a help room on July 28th 2007

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig hex is 4 bit
delphiprogrammercraig: 8 bits in a byte you idiot
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig 1 byte is 8 bits
delphiprogrammercraig: 0 - FF = 1 byte

delphiprogrammercraig: venom, these VB coders think 4 bits in a byte

delphiprogrammercraig: i hope zak don't take up assembly
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig a hex digit is 4 bits

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig always has been

$YZ\mdtech$ deepthawt: he's probably thinking of BCD
delphiprogrammercraig: a hex digit is not 4 bits!
delphiprogrammercraig: a hex digit is 8 bits

delphiprogrammercraig: my god

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f .......0000 - 1111......4 bits

delphiprogrammercraig: Zak, stop smoking crack from your crack pipe for a few hours

$YZ\mdtech$ deepthawt: the hex value of the ascii digit '0' is 48 in decimal which in binary is 00110000 which is clearly more than 4 bits. and hex CHARACTERS are ascii characters not control characters
$cc\IRISH$ _reen: Two hexadecimal digits can represent eight binary digits, or a byte.
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig a byte is 2 hex digits....... 8 bits...... represented by 2 hex digits
ven0m.cha0s: Its primary purpose is to represent the binary code in a format easier for humans to read, and acts as a form of shorthand, in which one hexadecimal digit stands in place of four binary bits. For example, the decimal numeral 79, whose binary representation is 01001111, is 4F in hexadecimal (4 = 0100
delphiprogrammercraig: it's ok, zak will be fine when he stops smoking crack

$YZ\mdtech$ deepthawt: not only that but 0-9 and a-f are not contiguous, so clearly fall short of the "4 bits" character

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig you dont even understand the basics

delphiprogrammercraig: zak, you have 2 coders in the room who DON'T agree with you

delphiprogrammercraig: you're out numbered and wrong
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig lol

delphiprogrammercraig: DEEPTHAWT: not only that but 0-9 and a-f are not contiguous, so clearly fall short of the "4 bits" character
delphiprogrammercraig: Zak so you're saying both me and deep are wrong (and yes first time ever i agree with him)

$cc\IRISH$ _reen: Two hexadecimal digits can represent eight binary digits, or a byte. <<
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig hex is 4 bits
$YZ\mdtech$ deepthawt: the values 0-15 can be represented in 4 bits, but that is not the 'hex representation' the hex representation is not the raw value it is the value expressed in ASCII as digits 0-9 and a-f

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: ocal is 3 bits

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: octal

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: 0-7

delphiprogrammercraig: zak, do you know what a Register is?

delphiprogrammercraig: a CPU Register

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig a regiter is a temp store,,,,,,used for fast accesss....by the cpu
venom_cha0s_king: What's 4 hex bytes then? 16?
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: cpu

delphiprogrammercraig: ok i've had enough of this, if zak want's to believe 1 byte is 4 bit, let him

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: hexadecimal is just a easyer way to do Binary,,,,,, representing four binary bits
delphiprogrammercraig: zak, you show me a 4 bit register to do half a byte using hex, show me
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig the 4040 had 4 bits registers
$YZ\mdtech$ deepthawt: can do a nibble swap on an Atmel ATMEGA series micro
delphiprogrammercraig: so what... in 4 bits you can NOT handle $FF
delphiprogrammercraig: and $FF is hex

delphiprogrammercraig: since you can not handle $FF hex is 8 bits

delphiprogrammercraig: so shut up

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: maybe 4004

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: hang on let me look it up
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: The Intel 4004, a 4-bit central processing unit (CPU) released by Intel Corp. in 1971 , is widely considered to be the world's first commercial single-chip microprocessor . The 4004 employed a 10µm silicon-gate PMOS technology and could execute approximately 60,000
delphiprogrammercraig: yes but you can have a 32 bit register on an intel / clone CPU

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_4004 <---- Craige there you go
delphiprogrammercraig: in order to deal with hex, you need 1 byte

delphiprogrammercraig: otherwise you're only going to get half of the value which would no longer make it hex
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig now say your sorry

venom_cha0s_king: Hexadecimal is primarily used in computing to represent a byte. <<< Quoted from Wikipedia.
delphiprogrammercraig: i'm not going to say sorry when i'm right
$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: delphiprogrammercraig hex is 4 bits

delphiprogrammercraig: you can't manipluate hex with 4 bits
delphiprogrammercraig: you can with 8 bits
delphiprogrammercraig: and more
delphiprogrammercraig: you can have from 0 to 40 but nothing more

delphiprogrammercraig: wtf is the point of that

$YZ\mdtech$ deepthawt: "hex" is not a substantive thing its a representation of a number the number of bits in the number dictate the hex representation, hex representation is in ASCII geez

$YZ\mdtech$ deepthawt: it takes one ascii character to represent a single hex digit

delphiprogrammercraig: if you want to edit a an 8 bit register you can use hex to view it as 1 byte

$YZ\tardisspinng$ yazakchat1: 0 to 9 A to F .....is four bits...... 0000 0001 0010 0011 0100 0101 0110 0111 1000 1001 1010 1011 1100 1101 1110 1111